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	<title>Comments on: Notes on 4Cs Research Panel</title>
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	<description>Alice Daer (formerly Robison), Asst. Professor of English, Arizona State University</description>
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		<title>By: collin</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[There&#039;s all sorts of irony and mild disappointment floating around in my head re these comments, most of which I&#039;ll keep to myself. ;-)

But the big thing is that it&#039;s not like they haven&#039;t had people telling them this stuff. I went to the meeting of the research committee last year to try and talk about the piece that I don&#039;t see represented in your notes above, which is circulation. There are already lots of complaints about how there&#039;s too much to keep track of, too many sessions at the conference, too many articles in the field, etc. It&#039;s not that there isn&#039;t enough; it&#039;s that we don&#039;t use the tools that already exist to manage it well. At. All.

But alot of these solutions sound to me like attempts by the presenters to reward (and/or rank) the work that they themselves perceive themselves as doing. And too many of the solutions that I&#039;ve heard about from folk who are &quot;taking the lead&quot; on building a &quot;research culture&quot; are solutions that reward an old model of the individual researcher, reward certain kinds of research, substitute calls for action in place of actual action, and so forth.

I think you&#039;re dead on in identifying some of the problems above. I think it&#039;s notable that all of the speakers come from a much older generation of the field than you and I represent. And I think it&#039;s no wonder that many of us, who could really enrich this conversation, seek our juice in other venues, finding little of it in rhetoric and composition.

Sigh. Sorry I wasn&#039;t able to get to NO, and sorry I missed you...

cgb]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s all sorts of irony and mild disappointment floating around in my head re these comments, most of which I&#8217;ll keep to myself. <img src='http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>But the big thing is that it&#8217;s not like they haven&#8217;t had people telling them this stuff. I went to the meeting of the research committee last year to try and talk about the piece that I don&#8217;t see represented in your notes above, which is circulation. There are already lots of complaints about how there&#8217;s too much to keep track of, too many sessions at the conference, too many articles in the field, etc. It&#8217;s not that there isn&#8217;t enough; it&#8217;s that we don&#8217;t use the tools that already exist to manage it well. At. All.</p>
<p>But alot of these solutions sound to me like attempts by the presenters to reward (and/or rank) the work that they themselves perceive themselves as doing. And too many of the solutions that I&#8217;ve heard about from folk who are &#8220;taking the lead&#8221; on building a &#8220;research culture&#8221; are solutions that reward an old model of the individual researcher, reward certain kinds of research, substitute calls for action in place of actual action, and so forth.</p>
<p>I think you&#8217;re dead on in identifying some of the problems above. I think it&#8217;s notable that all of the speakers come from a much older generation of the field than you and I represent. And I think it&#8217;s no wonder that many of us, who could really enrich this conversation, seek our juice in other venues, finding little of it in rhetoric and composition.</p>
<p>Sigh. Sorry I wasn&#8217;t able to get to NO, and sorry I missed you&#8230;</p>
<p>cgb</p>
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